danvilla2
I’m not an expert
Funny you say that, the twat did make an appearance asking a question sounding like a worked up, hippy protestor - must be in the corbyn blood.
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Funny you say that, the twat did make an appearance asking a question sounding like a worked up, hippy protestor - must be in the corbyn blood.
The Fear
A Wise Man (once sat next to him)
He was on Marr yesterday, you cannot trust a word he says anymore can you? Which is terrible for a high ranking (I did say ranking Minister)
Boris et al backing him, just opens them all up to the 'they are all the same' and all corrupt point of view. One I don't share, as many are in it for the right reasons, but I am not sure that covers many in the cabinet.
mike_field
Vital Football Legend
I think they'll have to - Gov have said school choice for the first week - but if they are testing as well, surely it's going to take a fortnight to get through 1000+ kids?
BringbakMON
Vital Football Hero
really poor that latest number -
need to crack on with this now.
needs opening up & if some folk can't be arsed then not sure why they should benefit tbh
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
EFL season scheduled to finish 8th of May. Premier league scheduled to finish 2 weeks later. So the 17th May date would only affect one league on one weekend i.e the final weekend in the Premier league. Did no one have a fixtures app open when deciding this part of the announcement.
Why bother. Just say no league fans to return until next season rather than this token effort. No one would be bothered after this long I’m sure and would give an extra 3 months not to have thousands in a stadium over one weekend .
Euros could be a different argument given they do not start until June.
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Why bother. Just say no league fans to return until next season rather than this token effort. No one would be bothered after this long I’m sure and would give an extra 3 months not to have thousands in a stadium over one weekend .
Euros could be a different argument given they do not start until June.
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BringbakMON
Vital Football Hero
suppose you'll get the playoff finals in as well
& obv worth doing it solely for the Fulham v Newcastle game if wor Stevie has worked his magic
& obv worth doing it solely for the Fulham v Newcastle game if wor Stevie has worked his magic
Pangloss
Vital Football Legend
With the mrs being a teacher I'm shocked I haven't had it yet, certainly bracing myself for when all the kids go back.
The common sense thing for me would have been to vaccinate all the teachers first. They keep saying its vital to get the kids back into school then surely teachers should be classed as essential workers.
Villan57
Alert Team
My son is in the same boat, with his Mrs being a teacher, , a bloody silly idea not vaccinating Teacher before they have to go back with all the little Covid carriers
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
Teachers are not a special case over many others who could make a strong case for being a priority I’m afraid. I get the impression they think they are and think they can hold everyone to ransom because they hold such a key in getting things back to normal by allowing kids back to school.
More than irritated by teachers or should I say in most fairness teacher unions who don’t come across as very ‘can do’.
Trouble with teachers pleading their case is when , like me , you have a neighbour who is a primary school teacher who went on holiday abroad in the October half term. Who’s husband runs a building firm and has consistently had employees in and out of the house throughout and even more so in the current lockdown and has allowed her son to go out with a friend in the friends car the last 2 weekends, your sympathy wears thin to their case.
More than irritated by teachers or should I say in most fairness teacher unions who don’t come across as very ‘can do’.
Trouble with teachers pleading their case is when , like me , you have a neighbour who is a primary school teacher who went on holiday abroad in the October half term. Who’s husband runs a building firm and has consistently had employees in and out of the house throughout and even more so in the current lockdown and has allowed her son to go out with a friend in the friends car the last 2 weekends, your sympathy wears thin to their case.
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danvilla2
I’m not an expert
EFL season scheduled to finish 8th of May. Premier league scheduled to finish 2 weeks later. So the 17th May date would only affect one league on one weekend i.e the final weekend in the Premier league. Did no one have a fixtures app open when deciding this part of the announcement.
Why bother. Just say no league fans to return until next season rather than this token effort. No one would be bothered after this long I’m sure and would give an extra 3 months not to have thousands in a stadium over one weekend .
Euros could be a different argument given they do not start until June.
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You could get tens of thousands of bigger club fans try to turn up for a lower league game - your Salford FC types - especially if there’s something riding on the game and it’s a sunny day.
danvilla2
I’m not an expert
Agree. Teachers, nurses, public transport drivers too. Anyone who keeps the world moving who is on the front line should all be done.
The number of TfL service people who has died was around 40 at one point, typically Black or minority ethnicity, of a higher risk age range. They should’ve got those people vaccinated at the front of the queue but they couldn’t afford more care home outbreaks costing lives playing catch up.
I hear what you are saying mate but if my wife was a school teacher I would be saying to her you are not going back until you have been vaccinated for fear of her getting it and then passing it on to me which is what happened to sirdennis.
danvilla2
I’m not an expert
Perhaps extreme and there might only be a few examples, but the last thing kids need is an increase in cases and a teaching dieing from it, as they near exams and coursework.
Always examples of irresponsible people, one household samples are dangerous as in every field of every industry you’ll find more or less compliant people.
If a teacher doesn’t have the choice to go back to work - which I don’t believe they do - they should be entitled to a vaccine.
Also, if teachers were to be invited forward now, wouldn’t that save disruption from taking them out of school during term time to go and get the vaccine whilst they are doing their “marking” i.e. fuck all?
Always examples of irresponsible people, one household samples are dangerous as in every field of every industry you’ll find more or less compliant people.
If a teacher doesn’t have the choice to go back to work - which I don’t believe they do - they should be entitled to a vaccine.
Also, if teachers were to be invited forward now, wouldn’t that save disruption from taking them out of school during term time to go and get the vaccine whilst they are doing their “marking” i.e. fuck all?
Pangloss
Vital Football Legend
This country seems to hate teachers and I don't get it. Many of them are risking their lives to look after the kids of 'key works' (many people are lying about their 'key work' may I add) and will be at even more risk once all kids return. Where they sit with respect to others on the front line is open for debate but I'd wager they'd net out near the top (behind key health workers).
danvilla2
I’m not an expert
For every teacher, there are what 60 parents? The emotion is high because parents are stressed, fed up, tired, and just wanting their kids back. I had a few twats of teachers but overall, they’re just normal people who don’t want to get or pass on the virus I guess. Like all of us...
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
I think the main point is that many professions can make a case for needing the vaccine before anyone else and teachers are not a special case when emergency service workers (outside the NHS), prison officers for example are not even a priority. Those professions that cannot not be completed without social contact. As Dan points out those keeping the world moving ...but that list is long and try telling anyone that their own job or life is less important than someone else’s
Teachers and schools are a controlled environment. Distancing should be able to be managed and controlled. There are plenty of jobs in the public domain that are not so able to be controlled that could make a case.
Teachers and schools are a controlled environment. Distancing should be able to be managed and controlled. There are plenty of jobs in the public domain that are not so able to be controlled that could make a case.
Melon Donkey
I am a little bit perplexed
Its not the teachers mate, it’s the unions that seem to hold too much power and really don’t come across as ‘can do’ .
My mum was a primary school teacher for 40 years and clearly has loyalties but has been really scathing about how this has been managed by the schools and unions , her point being the same in that the impression is what we can’t do rather than what we can do.
The schools need to risk assesses anyone vulnerable by health or age and take them away from the ‘front line’ so to speak .
Everyone out working is risking their life because we have seen what can happen with fit people succumbing. Your shelf stacker at Tesco’s is risking their life walking round a supermarket all day with the amount of public foot fall .
I dont think the teachers unions do teachers any favours.
They are always at the forefront of any issues, and always come across as extremly obstructive.
