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The problem is that there exists in society a huge amount of bias and discrimination against many groups. You seem to be advocating just ignoring it and hoping that things will naturally sort themselves out to the extent that in a few years we will all be holding hands and singing Kumbaya.

That, I think, is a view that can only be held by a privileged, white, heterosexual male living in a western country.


Actually you are completely wrong I am not advocating ignoring it at all and I know there is bias and descrimnation everywhere. However you have missed the point completely. It will only be a non issue when it isn't something that is constantly referred to which is the point I am making. Until that point it will always polarise the idiots on both sides.

And yes I maybe a white heterosexual male as you put it but to say that I hold that view because of that is in itself stereotyping and derogatory because you nothing about me.

For your information I have experienced racism first hand on many occasions and trust me it's vile. I had a girlfriend of Indian descent when I was at University and that was in the late 80's early 90's so I will let you figure that one out for yourself as to the type of comments thrown my way and hers for the couple of years we were together. Trust me it wasn't only coming from white people either so don't think it only goes one way.

However what I will say is that even then it was only a minority of mindless morons. The trouble is some people are just to ignorant to educate.
 
I agree that the standard is lower. One reason in the U.K. for such a difference is that the FA banned women’s football between 1921 to 1971. Additionally, only in 2018 did all WSL (top division in England) clubs become professional to focus solely on football.

Of course the standard is lower when you look at these facts. The women’s game is nowhere near as developed because it’s not been given the opportunity to grow.

It is drastically growing in popularity, especially with young girls and also families as you don’t get the toxic culture often seen at a men’s game.

S6Ian, I am not saying you have but what do people get from slagging off the women’s game? It’s similar to when a Premier League fan slags off Lincoln because we’re bad in comparison to their multi-millionaire footballers. It’s pointless and the opposite of good banter.

I was not slagging it off at all, far from it, although I understand it may have come across that way. I was answering the question posed.

I totally agree about the less toxicness (Is that a word?) in the women’s game and there is less gamesmanship (Gameswomanship?) in the female game. That alone makes it a refreshing change for me.
 
According to something I read on Facebook the other day it's the left-wing Nazis who are the worst.

Although I suppose they may be balanced out by right-wing Communists.
I have been called a nazi before by right wing trolls and it has been justified on the grounds that national Socialist has the word socialist in it so I have had to explain to said people the difference between social and economic politics and what make Nazis fascist. I think it still went over their heads though.
 
I was not slagging it off at all, far from it, although I understand it may have come across that way. I was answering the question posed.

I totally agree about the less toxicness (Is that a word?) in the women’s game and there is less gamesmanship (Gameswomanship?) in the female game. That alone makes it a refreshing change for me.

I was building on your point and tried to make it clear I was not saying you had slagged off the women’s game. If this hasn’t come across then I’m sorry.
 
I was building on your point and tried to make it clear I was not saying you had slagged off the women’s game. If this hasn’t come across then I’m sorry.

I am with you now....totally misread it. Sorry matey, l blame it on being stir crazy....😉
 
Can you explain how you’re stirring a pot by saying Black Lives Matter?

What do you mean?
It started of as an innocent slogan but now is jumped upon by various organisations using the slogan for devisive reasons and causing more trouble and antagonism than ever. Re the booing for taking the knee on behalf of Black Lives Matter and so changing the slogan to Fight Racism or something of the sort.
The point being All Lives Matter and the slogan Black Lives Matter just created more racism.
 
Just to throw an observation at the women in sport conversation. I would argue that the two sports where men and women are most often regarded on nearly equal basis are tennis and athletics. The one thing they have in common is that the TV audience watches them compete at the same events as men do (for tennis, I am talking about the 4 Majors not the tours).

There are other sports that do the same, but tend to have a lower profile e.g. equestrian events, swimming, diving, gymnastics and bowling.

For me, (and the same applies to disabled sport) while sports are operated independently, they will always be viewed independently. Perhaps there is an argument for running simultaneous mens' and womens' competitions in other sports.

I am glad you mentioned bowling, or rather bowls. One of the very few sports where men and women can actually compete AGAINST each other on an equal basis. Look at the recent World Indoor Championships, where two women beat male opponents in the Singles... and one of those women was a 25-year-old who was seven and a half months pregnant, and after dispatching one chap in the first round, then beat the six-time world champion in the second round. But what coverage did it get in the media? Barely any.
 
It started of as an innocent slogan but now is jumped upon by various organisations using the slogan for devisive reasons and causing more trouble and antagonism than ever. Re the booing for taking the knee on behalf of Black Lives Matter and so changing the slogan to Fight Racism or something of the sort.
The point being All Lives Matter and the slogan Black Lives Matter just created more racism.

And Black Lives Matter officially changed its name to the Black Liberation Movement late last year.
 
It started of as an innocent slogan but now is jumped upon by various organisations using the slogan for devisive reasons and causing more trouble and antagonism than ever. Re the booing for taking the knee on behalf of Black Lives Matter and so changing the slogan to Fight Racism or something of the sort.
The point being All Lives Matter and the slogan Black Lives Matter just created more racism.

I wanted to ask what you meant before jumping to conclusions. I should’ve just jumped to that conclusion.

I don’t know why this needs explaining but the phrase and sentiment behind Black Lives Matter does not equate to your life does not matter.

The booing by Millwall fans was absolutely disgusting too. I can’t believe anyone watched that and saw it as a positive.
 
I wanted to ask what you meant before jumping to conclusions. I should’ve just jumped to that conclusion.

I don’t know why this needs explaining but the phrase and sentiment behind Black Lives Matter does not equate to your life does not matter.

The booing by Millwall fans was absolutely disgusting too. I can’t believe anyone watched that and saw it as a positive.

There was booing by plenty of fans at other grounds, but the Millwall supporters were highlighted far more than any others. Why would that have been?
 
I am glad you mentioned bowling, or rather bowls. One of the very few sports where men and women can actually compete AGAINST each other on an equal basis. Look at the recent World Indoor Championships, where two women beat male opponents in the Singles... and one of those women was a 25-year-old who was seven and a half months pregnant, and after dispatching one chap in the first round, then beat the six-time world champion in the second round. But what coverage did it get in the media? Barely any.
I would take that as a good a sign.
No one (media wise) is interested in bowls if a man wins , so the fact no one's interested when a woman wins, is surely equality?
 
It started of as an innocent slogan but now is jumped upon by various organisations using the slogan for devisive reasons and causing more trouble and antagonism than ever. Re the booing for taking the knee on behalf of Black Lives Matter and so changing the slogan to Fight Racism or something of the sort.
The point being All Lives Matter and the slogan Black Lives Matter just created more racism.
Oh dear. You really spoiled it by putting "the point being all lives matter" from your position of white privilege; and I have explained what that is at length on here before.
 
I am glad you mentioned bowling, or rather bowls. One of the very few sports where men and women can actually compete AGAINST each other on an equal basis. Look at the recent World Indoor Championships, where two women beat male opponents in the Singles... and one of those women was a 25-year-old who was seven and a half months pregnant, and after dispatching one chap in the first round, then beat the six-time world champion in the second round. But what coverage did it get in the media? Barely any.
The semi final was as good a bowls match as you'll ever see (the pregnant lady). It was a pity she couldn't replicate her form in the final.
 
The semi final was as good a bowls match as you'll ever see (the pregnant lady). It was a pity she couldn't replicate her form in the final.

You mean her win over Marshall? That was a second round game in the Open Singles and indeed, it was a fantastic match. The final was in the Women's Singles, where fatigue undoubtedly caught up with her in the end.
 
It started of as an innocent slogan but now is jumped upon by various organisations using the slogan for devisive reasons and causing more trouble and antagonism than ever. Re the booing for taking the knee on behalf of Black Lives Matter and so changing the slogan to Fight Racism or something of the sort.
The point being All Lives Matter and the slogan Black Lives Matter just created more racism.


I can't speak for the UK because I haven't lived there for a long while, but here in the US, all lives will matter when black lives matter, because all too frequently, they don't.