Exam results? Ratings from teachers, you mean?
I don't have many qualifications but if I had to rely on what my teachers thought, I would have a damn sight less.
Certainly a good time to be a teacher's pet.
Not sure how you can say it isnt about the teachers scores. The govt wouldn't need to downgrade them if the teachers hadnt given such over inflated predictions. I dont know too much about the situation so feel free to correct me, i won't be offended. But it seems teachers have massively overexagerrated their predictions of how students would do. I imagine they have compared this years predicted scores with previous averages and the scores are no doubt miles different.The row isn't about the teachers scores its about the fact that the Scottish Government decided to downgrade them!
Its a pity that Nicola Sturgeon isn't sorry about Nicola Sturgeon. (a.k.a. "The Guppy")
Not sure how you can say it isnt about the teachers scores. The govt wouldn't need to downgrade them if the teachers hadnt given such over inflated predictions. I dont know too much about the situation so feel free to correct me, i won't be offended. But it seems teachers have massively overexagerrated their predictions of how students would do. I imagine they have compared this years predicted scores with previous averages and the scores are no doubt miles different.
This is why the govt are downgrading scores, isnt it?
Not sure how you can say it isnt about the teachers scores. The govt wouldn't need to downgrade them if the teachers hadnt given such over inflated predictions. I dont know too much about the situation so feel free to correct me, i won't be offended. But it seems teachers have massively overexagerrated their predictions of how students would do. I imagine they have compared this years predicted scores with previous averages and the scores are no doubt miles different.
This is why the govt are downgrading scores, isnt it?
The teachers marked the pupils based on course work and mock exams.
the downgrade was based on what school the pupil attended not their individual record. In other words if you went to a school that historically had bad grades, then your score was downgraded.
I wish them both good luck. Have been through this in the past with two daughters so know how it can be in the waiting period.My son (GCSE) and daughter (A Level) are both going through this, and we will see what happens in next week or so. My son was top of the class, and predicted top marks in his mocks and coursework, so an exam could only have been bad - he is going to secondary school though, so the worry is that he would be marked down if the school "inflates" all the pupils. My daughter was centre of the pack in her Grammar school, so hopefully will be all right.
Exactly. It absolutely seems suspicious. It's quite clear really isnt it? It seems absolutely clear that teachers have over-inflated exam predictions to me.The argument is that if a school had 10 years of bad or moderate exam performance, and then scored very well on the one year where there was "predicted grades" marking, then that would appear suspicious, and therefore a "correction" adjustment would need to be made. Whilst teachers are grading the kids, they are also in effect grading themselves and their school.
Moderation of marks in the exam papers themselves are one thing. But don’t the grade boundaries change dependant on the results as well? I.e. if too many people get a high mark, they decide that it means the exam was too easy, and essentially raise the mark required to get a pass/A etc.? I don’t know for sure, but I thought this is what happened?My wife marked exams for a number of years. The process was strictly controlled and moderation was an essential part of that process.
The problem is that instead of a relatively small number of regrades prompted by appeals from high achieving schools, this time 40% are expected to be regraded, the majority downwards. There is no massive error of over inflation as nearly all will move only one grade.
Poor mites. They are 16/18. Not 10. They have already been gifted 4 months on their Xboxes at home doing nothing without any stress of exams.The tragedy is that children, already disrupted by covid and worrying about the future of courses, will have another disappointment to face.
How?It could have been avoided throughout the UK.
Moderation of marks in the exam papers themselves are one thing. But don’t the grade boundaries change dependant on the results as well? I.e. if too many people get a high mark, they decide that it means the exam was too easy, and essentially raise the mark required to get a pass/A etc.? I don’t know for sure, but I thought this is what happened?
If you’re saying 40% of grades will be changed, then it means that 40% of grades have been overinflated. That’s huge? I didn’t know the figures, but if you’re right that shows a huge, colossal error of over inflation?
Poor mites. They are 16/18. Not 10. They have already been gifted 4 months on their Xboxes at home doing nothing without any stress of exams.
How?
Pretty much spot on as usual.On your first poinjt moderation was normlly conducted throughout the marking process and then again after completion.... and before pupils were awarded grades. I suspected that grade boundaries change in the light of results for each cohort but the department maintains the psoition that moderation is used to apply a consistent standard over years.
I don't think it's huge if a relatively large number of grades were overestimated by one grade, given a new and untried method of judgement. I agree 40% is a large percentage.
I think your attitude to pupils is harsh and ill judged. We harrass, over test and pressurise them into anxiety and ill health in the pursuit of exam results, which no longer promise the rewards of former generations. The amount of homework given from absurdly young ages is a disgrace. I don't like the news shots of whooping and weeping schoolchildren receiving results but it's not their fault. We have acted as if every child should be academically stretched and developed without thought for the majority, who do not benefit from this madness.
A rank amateur could have seen this "crisis" coming, I certainly did. If you have a different system installed at short notice, which does not have the blind exam cover of the normal system, appeals will proliferate. Moderation should have been done before grades were awarded, celebrations enjoyed and plans made. It wasn't difficult.
I think your attitude to pupils is harsh and ill judged. We harrass, over test and pressurise them into anxiety and ill health in the pursuit of exam results, which no longer promise the rewards of former generations. The amount of homework given from absurdly young ages is a disgrace. I don't like the news shots of whooping and weeping schoolchildren receiving results but it's not their fault. We have acted as if every child should be academically stretched and developed without thought for the majority, who do not benefit from this madness.