Feco
Vital Squad Member
Seems Macron has called for a European army (on Russia’s doorstep)
I wonder where this will lead
The end of NATO.....
Seems Macron has called for a European army (on Russia’s doorstep)
I wonder where this will lead
Not at all. But I am presuming his innocence. That is a basic principle of our constitution. So accordingly there is no reason to delay anything. The onus is on your side to prove wrongdoing and that it affected the result.
This will certainly change Europe. Whether we crash out entirely, stay in fully, stay in limbo, stay half in half out, be a rule taker, or whatever other outcome you can envisage.
The brexit referendum has been a game changer.
It would have reformed and evolved anyway. Partly because it needed it and partly just because it always will, but this spectacle has undoubtedly accelerated that markedly.
Honestly I don’t know.
The discussion I had was all about the Withdrawal Act, and getting to a point that Trade Deals and future relationships could be negotiated.
It seems as though the reality of what a disorderly exit would do, not only to our economy, but probably many other countries around the world eventually focused minds.
I think deep down there is concern that the world is facing another economic downturn, and all this uncertainty was not helpful.
The truth is, all the issues around the WTO rules and borders is correct.
Something had to change, the proposed transition does that.
Personally I think any Trade Deal will be many years in the making and will be significantly different to anything we are considering now.
I also think there will be a major evolution of the EU along the way.
We are seeing those changes happening now with the likes of Merkel moving on. And of course Juncker and co will be gone soon.
And of course we have to negotiate agreements with other countries at the same time.
I am hopeful that common sense has now broken out, and rather than being ideologically driven, this thing can be negotiated properly and professionally.
It will be sad if this progress stops this post getting to 100 pages.....
You can thank brexiteers for the change to come. Any change to follow is largely down to the vote and Merkel’s disastrous open door immigration policy
Yes because the national crime agency just do stuff for fun. He is already being fined for wrong doing. The questions are around does it go further into criminality. If it does, as looks very likely, there is a question mark.
Interesting that the investigation says the Liberal Party sold their list to Britain Stronger in Europe for £100,000. The unbiased investigators will investigate this later, rather than carry out both investigations at the same time!
Methinks you are very optimistic. How often have u seen a genie get stuffed back in its bottle?
Every day after march is a day less to contain this madness. The latest plan is yet another deferral in a long and growing list of issues. Let's not forget orf other thread- IPCC says we have just 12 years to halt global warming before that can no longer be contained. What we are seeing here is our preference to adapt rather than change imo
I agree with all that. I just wonder about the parliamentary arithmetic.Not sure preconceptions come into it ITTO.
What is being proposed is the only way for the Withdrawal Act, other than crashing out.
Ultimately the withdrawal is not the important bit, it’s the resultant Trade Deal.
This is a compromise now to get to that bit.
My view is that the deal is better than hard brexiteers thought but it is interesting gove asked for legal advice on the backstop to be published
Hopefully you are not alone in these thoughts, and this gets the parliamentary votes it needs.
We need rid of this uncertainty.
Gove is an interesting man. Aside from his politics which I don’t really agree with, he is quite capable.
Everything is done with a purpose even if it’s not always obvious.
I suspect this move is tied in with next years expected vacancy in SW1A.
I agree with all that. I just wonder about the parliamentary arithmetic.
Or maybe he's worried that the Brexit dream is being shafted? More likely, I think.My view is its planted. He has already seen the legal advice and it is strong. In the end the Government will relent and publish showing them to be on the good side. I might be being naieve but it is significant it's him doing the asking
My view is its planted. He has already seen the legal advice and it is strong. In the end the Government will relent and publish showing them to be on the good side. I might be being naieve but it is significant it's him doing the asking
This must be a terrible blow for you-a deal that has a decent chance to get through Parliament. Stop listening to yesterday's people and come with us on a new journey...one where divisions are healed, where we are an independent country, where business certainty returns.